[megazerox6]

Hey there,first this might seems long but please read it 'til the end. Well,i have this idea about MegaMan 11 and how it should be the last title in the classic series,so to make it cool and original it should be linked to the MegaMan X series and by that I mean "Zero",we know it was revealed that Zero was made by dr.wily to destroy mega and bass, and that's the main plot of the game,so it should start as always with : in year ... dr wiley inveted another set of robot masters etc,and then it all goes smooth just like always but when the 8 robot masters are defeated an animation cutscene occurs,with dr wily in his lab infront of a sealed capsule saying something like: "keeping megaman busy battling my robot masters got me the time to finish my ultimate invention,by merging the evil power i got with my technology i finally built the doom of that megaman.hahaha",and then the capsule opens revealing a silhouette of zero and his eye glows red,he gets out and start walking towards wiley (of course only his black silouette shows,to keep the suspense)and then wily is cornered to the wall and zero's shadow is covering him as he goes like:"stop,i created you,you can't do this" and then cutscene is over (so we don't know exactly what happened and that leaves us with 2 possibilities either he killed him or not) now megaman procceds to the wily fortress stages and after 3 stages another cutscene occurs in which protoman contacts dr.light's lab and having many injuries saying something like :"dr.wily was working on something big,i tracked him and it lead me to this place...dr.light we're doomed",that's when protoman gets sliced in half and the radio signal is over,so light contacts megaman immediately and tel him to go to the coordinates where protoman's last signal came,(cutscene over),megaman man now heads to the location,and make his way through the stage and once he get to the boss room,a little cutscene is on where bass is standing infront of Zero and then it shows us Zero (like in a clear shot of him,you know in an epic way) then cutscene is over,back to the game mega man adresses bass:"bass what are you doing here",bass:"i heard about wily's plans and what happened to protoman,so i came here and looks like i found myself a worthy oppenent",bass then fires his buster towards zero,but the latter jumps avoiding the shot and then attacks bass slashing him into pieces,and now the real battle begins, after a tough battle megaman defeats zero and the place crashes down that's when a final cutscene is on : megaman is lying on ground badly injured with the remains of protoman and bass scattered around the place then roll appears run towards megaman kneels next to him, and she's like:"megaman we should take you back to dr.light's lab for repairs ,your injuries are severe"and megaman says:"roll,what the hell are you doing here,this place is dangerous get the hell out of here"and as they speak Zero's hand reaches out of the ruins,and the camera turns to zero's POV as he approaches mega and roll,and then he delievers two slashes to roll cutting her into pieces,(this in dramatic way like the background turns a violet colour and a line of thunder crosses it)then mega man hardly stands up points his buster at zero and says:"you killed all my friends,you beast..." but zero reaches out for him,grabs his head and start squeezing until megaman's head is crashed,and as his headless body is fallen ,zero delivers the final blow cutting him,(and that's it for the megaman characters,and now for an epic ending) zero turns to the viewer take a few steps towards the camera and "SLASH",and then the credits rolls and ends with a doctor light's image in the background working on megaman X.
your opinions

[Flame]

First of all, PLEASE dont make walls of text. Learn to Paragraph.

Second, Just... No...

You must be new to the fandom...

[Jabon]

Agreed with Flame. Do you know how hard it is to read a giant wall of text? Especially when you don't put spaces in between commas and periods and so forth? Being a person who is up at 2:00 in the morning reading this, I can't help but nitpick and point out the fact that you've spelled his name both Dr. Wily and Dr. Wiley. First, it really is Dr. Wily. Second, why did you spell it both ways anyway?

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and how it should be the last title in the classic series

No. Classic Mega Man could go on forever as long as it doesn't contradict anything MMX and onward. Making a last Classic Mega Man game is like making a last Super Mario Bros. game or a last The Legend of Zelda game. You just can't do it.

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so to make it cool and original it should be linked to the MegaMan X series and by that I mean "Zero",

It's not original if it's already been done. We've been teased with Zero in Mega Man 2: The Power Fighters. In the ending of Bass, Dr. Wily tells him about his "new project" which he planned to use to destroy Mega Man, and help him conquer the world.

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the capsule opens revealing a silhouette of zero and his eye glows red,he gets out and start walking towards wiley (of course only his black silouette shows,to keep the suspense)and then wily is cornered to the wall and zero's shadow is covering him as he goes like:"stop,i created you,you can't do this" and then cutscene is over (so we don't know exactly what happened and that leaves us with 2 possibilities either he killed him or not

Zero was never used in the Wily Wars, so he could never have been released. Of course, he could have been released for an obedience test or something, but in the end, Zero was sealed away by Wily because of his inability to follow orders.

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"roll,what the hell are you doing here,this place is dangerous get the hell out of here"

...No. Having Mega Man say "what the hell" is like making Mario say "damn" or making a Care Bear say "fuck." Mind you, the rating system was more lenient with their ratings, which is why they let Bass, X, and Zero say "Damn!", as well as the amount of blood/substance in Mega Man X4. But nowadays, it's different. Plus, if anyone would say "damn," it would be the person with an attitude to fit his vocabulary. In this case, Bass of course. Mega Man is kind-hearted and stuff like that. I know I'm making a big deal out of this quote, but it just bugs me a lot.

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he approaches mega and roll,and then he delievers two slashes to roll cutting her into pieces,(this in dramatic way like the background turns a violet colour and a line of thunder crosses it)then mega man hardly stands up points his buster at zero and says:"you killed all my friends,you beast..." but zero reaches out for him,grabs his head and start squeezing until megaman's head is crashed,and as his headless body is fallen ,zero delivers the final blow cutting him,

What. WHAT?! First off, "kill" is not a term used in the Mega Man universe. It's either "terminate" or "retire" or something like that. Second, killing Roll and Mega Man...especially in the way they died...just...ugh. I mean, seriously, do you expect this to be in a Mega Man game for real? Like I said earlier, Zero was sealed away because he couldn't obey orders. Also, if Zero was let loose, we very well may be facing the apocalypse with nothing strong enough to take him on.

I'm not really trying to be mean or anything. It's just...yeah, maybe plot ideas aren't your thing.

[megazerox6]

thanks guys for your posts,but the thing is i'm new to all of this,i just had an idea i wanted to share but next time i'll try to make it better starting with dividing to paragraphs

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You must be new to the fandom

yeah man,i'm new to all of this,i just wanted to try

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I can't help but nitpick and point out the fact that you've spelled his name both Dr. Wily and Dr. Wiley. First, it really is Dr. Wily. Second, why did you spell it both ways anyway?

just a spelling mistake

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No. Classic Mega Man could go on forever as long as it doesn't contradict anything MMX and onward. Making a last Classic Mega Man game is like making a last Super Mario Bros. game or a last The Legend of Zelda game. You just can't do it.

i agree with you about the Zelda part,but c'mon megaman classic has got hundreds of games,i mean it's about time it ends,and personally i like the X series better,but that is me

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It's not original if it's already been done. We've been teased with Zero in Mega Man 2: The Power Fighters. In the ending of Bass, Dr. Wily tells him about his "new project" which he planned to use to destroy Mega Man, and help him conquer the world.

i know about Zero in Mega Man 2: The Power Fighters but he didn't appear physicaly only his silhouette,but in my case he appears and fights

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...No. Having Mega Man say "what the hell" is like making Mario say "damn" or making a Care Bear say "fuck." Mind you, the rating system was more lenient with their ratings, which is why they let Bass, X, and Zero say "Damn!", as well as the amount of blood/substance in Mega Man X4. But nowadays, it's different. Plus, if anyone would say "damn," it would be the person with an attitude to fit his vocabulary. In this case, Bass of course. Mega Man is kind-hearted and stuff like that. I know I'm making a big deal out of this quote, but it just bugs me a lot

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about this part, i guess you're right, but i just said it as figure of speech i'm not expecting it to be in the real game

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if Zero was let loose, we very well may be facing the apocalypse with nothing strong enough to take him on

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that's the point of the whole game "terminating" every character in the classic series so it will be the end of the game and the beginning of the X series cuz the original series characters don't exist at that era so they had to die someway,and to link their death to the X series,Zero should do it.
and relax man that's just an idea i'm not willing to make it game or somehing so loosen up with your critics a bit

[Thanatos-Zero]

Just to let you know. MisterGambit's Megaman F fangame is about facing Rock's greatest challenge, where Wily releases a new generation of robots, which are all equall or superior to Bass' power. And along all those robots there is Zero.
Since it is a fangame, it is justified. Also it gives us the satisfaction to make a dream come true.
Take some popcorns and enjoy the show:

[megazerox6]

Thanatos-Zero, on 15 June 2012 - 12:10 PM, said:

Just to let you know. MisterGambit's Megaman F fangame is about facing Rock's greatest challenge, where Wily releases a new generation of robots, which are all equall or superior to Bass' power. And along all those robots there is Zero.
Since it is a fangame, it is justified. Also it gives us the satisfaction to make a dream come true.
Take some popcorns and enjoy the show:

Neat,now that's what i'm talking about,i don't know much about this game but it looks cool ,if only it have those cutscenes i have in mind.
i have 2 questions : is Zero also the last boss? and is this game still in development?

[Thanatos-Zero]

Yeah, it is still under development. After Zero comes the Final Boss, however it is not revealed yet if it is Wily or something different entirely. :P
http://mistergambit64.deviantart.com/

[Flame]

just to throw it out there since you are new to the fandom, some time before he left capcom, Inafune in a question answering session, stated that Zero did NOT kill the classic cast.


"Did Zero really "kill" the family between the events of the Classic Mega Man and X series? "

KI: "No, Zero did not kill them. According to the way I created him, Zero is not such a person--it is not in his profile."


and here's the excerpt from the Megaman Zero timeline that mentions Zero being sealed by Wily.

1XX years ago
The birth of Zero

Zero was produced by Dr. Wily, who schemed at taking over the world. But he contained a flaw in his cognitive program that made him violent and unwilling to obey instructions, so Dr. Wily himself sealed Zero in a capsule.

[megazerox6]

Thanatos-Zero, on 15 June 2012 - 02:48 PM, said:

Yeah, it is still under development. After Zero comes the Final Boss, however it is not revealed yet if it is Wily or something different entirely. :P
http://mistergambit64.deviantart.com/

thanks,i really hope the game is released soon,it seems pretty cool

[megazerox6]

Flame, on 15 June 2012 - 04:04 PM, said:

just to throw it out there since you are new to the fandom, some time before he left capcom, Inafune in a question answering session, stated that Zero did NOT kill the classic cast.


"Did Zero really "kill" the family between the events of the Classic Mega Man and X series? "

KI: "No, Zero did not kill them. According to the way I created him, Zero is not such a person--it is not in his profile."


and here's the excerpt from the Megaman Zero timeline that mentions Zero being sealed by Wily.

1XX years ago
The birth of Zero

Zero was produced by Dr. Wily, who schemed at taking over the world. But he contained a flaw in his cognitive program that made him violent and unwilling to obey instructions, so Dr. Wily himself sealed Zero in a capsule.

thanks man that was really useful, i didn't know that

[megazerox6]

hey i'm back with a change in the idea,well zero never killed the original cast and he was sealed by wily,so insted of zero,wily first created a prototype of zero let's say "proto zero" and he's the one who killed megaman,bass,protoman,and roll,but he got destroyed because of a fatal system error ( cuz he's just a prototype after all),so seeing the success he made,wily decides to create zero to conquer the world with,but since he had a flaw in his cognitive program that made him violent and unwilling to obey,wily sealed him.And there you have it ZERO never killed the original cast and never used during the wily wars.

[killtoy666]

First of all, i'm not even going to try to read that great big wall of words, second, ill quote Egoraptor on this one.

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Ahhhh fuckin megaman, whatever, megaman 12?

I mean come one do we really need another megaman game? why don't they expand into the ZX, or maybe MEGAMAN X9? again this is my opinion and i don't want to bash anyone's feelings on this but honestly i don't think we need another one of these...

[Flame]

megazerox6, on 17 June 2012 - 03:02 PM, said:

hey i'm back with a change in the idea,well zero never killed the original cast and he was sealed by wily,so insted of zero,wily first created a prototype of zero let's say "proto zero" and he's the one who killed megaman,bass,protoman,and roll,but he got destroyed because of a fatal system error ( cuz he's just a prototype after all),so seeing the success he made,wily decides to create zero to conquer the world with,but since he had a flaw in his cognitive program that made him violent and unwilling to obey,wily sealed him.And there you have it ZERO never killed the original cast and never used during the wily wars.

But why do they have to be KILLED in the first place. I never understand the fetish for violence people have. They want a cataclkysm. they want Axl to go maverick... i dont get it.

The Classic series is all about being lighthearted fun. Wily is a threat, but you never feel legitimately threatened by him in Classic games. And the one game that was darker and actually contained death, (Super Adventure Rockman- Exploding UN helicopters, Roll Dying in the game over, etc etc.) was inafune's LEAST favorite, and one which he actually APOLOGIZED for to the audience in the Complete Works book, stating that it had been outsourced and he was really upset with it's dark tone.

Super Adventure Rockman is as dark as it will ever get, and as dark as the series should ever be.

Also, really..? proto Zero? :| That's just silly. There's no room for a prototype, and it seems very odd to create a prototype for a sentient being.

Protoman is a prototype in the sense that he is the first of his kind, the prototypical android, AND that he was the basis for Rock's design when Light moved on and made Rock and Roll. But he isnt outright Megaman's prototype.

Thats like having a prototype baby. it makes no sense. Especially when Zero is to be Wily's masterpiece. he would simply start with Zero and devote everything to Zero, fine tuning him, tweaking him, adjusting him...

Axl is a prototype in the sense that he is the pioneer of the Copy Ability. he was the beta test for the Copy Chip, which was later refined in New Generation Reploids.

Even X is a prototype in the sense that he is the prototypical Reploid, he is the base from which Reploids were born from. He is the first of his kind.

[Flame]

Double post

[volt-kid]

Megazerox6's first post (I'm not quoting that big of a post).

Jason, on 15 June 2012 - 06:57 AM, said:

Making a last Classic Mega Man game is like making a last Super Mario Bros. game or a last The Legend of Zelda game. You just can't do it.

The game where the classic series ties in with the X series is Rock Man Online.

Flame, on 17 June 2012 - 10:32 PM, said:

But why do they have to be KILLED in the first place. I never understand the fetish for violence people have. They want a cataclkysm. they want Axl to go maverick... i dont get it.

The Classic series is all about being lighthearted fun. Wily is a threat, but you never feel legitimately threatened by him in Classic games. And the one game that was darker and actually contained death, (Super Adventure Rockman- Exploding UN helicopters, Roll Dying in the game over, etc etc.) was inafune's LEAST favorite, and one which he actually APOLOGIZED for to the audience in the Complete Works book, stating that it had been outsourced and he was really upset with it's dark tone.

Super Adventure Rockman is as dark as it will ever get, and as dark as the series should ever be.

Mega Man is all about violence. Even the last of the classic series. It looks to me that they were aiming in that direction.

[Flame]

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The game where the classic series ties in with the X series is Rock Man Online.

Not really, since it's supposed to take place long after everyone, Classic, or X, is gone and dead, and the ones that appear in the videos are replications. yes, even Duo. EVERYONE is a replication of the original character, for the game's plot, which is replicated heroes vs replicated bosses.

it seems to follow some sort of split timeline AFTER Command Mission, since it involves Cinnamon having visons of a place called "Neo Arcaida"

which seems to hint that it is a split timeline branch that runs parallel to the Zero series.

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Mega Man is all about violence. Even the last of the classic series. It looks to me that they were aiming in that direction.

Kiddy cartoon violence though.

You tell me a Springman or a bubble man is violent or scary at all.

Not to mention Classic is the series where when bosses die they explode into little bubbles.

Even in the SNES, and Even in the PSX.

Even the least technologically able X game, the Game Boy Color X games, made sure their bosses had proper X series style explosions. Zero series has explosions, ZX series has explosions. And even the legends series has explosions, which along with it's plot and underlying themes and backstory, belies it's seemingly lighthearted surface.

but classic? it's all about googly eyed robots and colorful worlds to romp in. levels that when viewed realistically, dont always make too much sense. Not till the X series did the series get dark. And darkER.

mega man CONTAINS cartoon violence. It's not ABOUT violence. It's ABOUT a blue Astro Boy knockoff fighting a mad scientist who vaguely resembles Albert Einstein, while aided by a GOOD scientist who very much resembles Santa Claus, and his robot sister and cliched mysterious racer X/cyborg 009/hakaider knockoff robot older brother.

And a robot Dog.

And a robot Cat.

And a robot Bird.

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And a fliptop robot rice...cooker...thing.

[volt-kid]

Flame, on 18 June 2012 - 04:59 AM, said:

Not really, since it's supposed to take place long after everyone, Classic, or X, is gone and dead, and the ones that appear in the videos are replications. yes, even Duo. EVERYONE is a replication of the original character, for the game's plot, which is replicated heroes vs replicated bosses.

it seems to follow some sort of split timeline AFTER Command Mission, since it involves Cinnamon having visons of a place called "Neo Arcaida"

which seems to hint that it is a split timeline branch that runs parallel to the Zero series.

How do you know this?

Flame, on 18 June 2012 - 04:59 AM, said:

Kiddy cartoon violence though.

You tell me a Springman or a bubble man is violent or scary at all.

Not to mention Classic is the series where when bosses die they explode into little bubbles.

Even in the SNES, and Even in the PSX.

It's not ABOUT violence. It's ABOUT a blue Astro Boy knockoff fighting a mad scientist who vaguely resembles Albert Einstein, while aided by a GOOD scientist who very much resembles Santa Claus, and his robot sister and cliched mysterious racer X/cyborg 009/hakaider knockoff robot older brother.

I wasn't referring to the mild cartoon type of violence, but never mind. I meant the action, but then realized that my post about violence didn't make sense. You can just scratch that piece. But I am interested in hearing your reasoning to your first quote.




Anyway, as far as the actual topic goes, I would be interested in seeing how the classic series ends. And yes, I understand that it has a light style to it, but under certain exceptions, I think it would be okay to make a change. It can still be aimed for kids, but at the same time, carry a piece targeted for adults as well. Look at Toy Story. The second was very childish indeed, but then the third had more a dark piece to it as well as it being for kids. They didn't just dump their style. They tampered with it to make their production more interesting. Swearing in the classic series, on the other hand, might be a bit much. That piece I say can stay out.

[Flame]

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How do you know this?

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But I am interested in hearing your reasoning to your first quote.

knock yourself out.

http://www.rockmanco...y-outlined.html

http://www.themmnetw...line-blog-info/

http://www.themmnetw...blog-starts-up/

http://www.rockmanco...man-online.html

[megazerox6]

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I mean come one do we really need another megaman game? why don't they expand into the ZX, or maybe MEGAMAN X9? again this is my opinion and i don't want to bash anyone's feelings on this but honestly i don't think we need another one of these...

dude, my point exactly,i mean i wanted it to be the last game so they'll never make another,and i totally agree with you, i've been dying to play a MEGAMAN X9,but insted they go and make megaman 10

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But why do they have to be KILLED in the first place. I never understand the fetish for violence people have. They want a cataclkysm. they want Axl to go maverick... i dont get it.

it's not about violence,personally i wanted them dead so there will be no more games and instead they'll expand into the ZX, or maybe MEGAMAN X9 (like killtoy666 said) i mean there's hundreds of classic series games and to be honest it's not much of a fun

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The game where the classic series ties in with the X series is Rock Man Online.

yeah but it's not guaranteed to be released

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Anyway, as far as the actual topic goes, I would be interested in seeing how the classic series ends. And yes, I understand that it has a light style to it, but under certain exceptions, I think it would be okay to make a change. It can still be aimed for kids, but at the same time, carry a piece targeted for adults as well. Look at Toy Story. The second was very childish indeed, but then the third had more a dark piece to it as well as it being for kids. They didn't just dump their style. They tampered with it to make their production more interesting. Swearing in the classic series, on the other hand, might be a bit much. That piece I say can stay out.

Amen

[Catastrophe666]

terrible, me thanks god u arent part of the megaman 11 dev team