[starforcenetwork]

It's really simple, just tell a weapon/s that do you think is practically useless and give a reason for it.

Super Arm(MM1) Because I can never use it
Water Balloon (MM8) Doesn't do much damage
Thunder Wool (MM10) Because it often misses
Oil Slider (MMPU) Because it does little damage in oil drops
Top Spin (MM3) Because you get damaged too every once in a while
Concrete Shot (MM9) Cause I never got the chance to use it other than freeze those laser-like beams in Wily's castle
Bubble Lead (MM2) Cause it's pathetic.
Danger Wrap (MM7) Hard to use

Frost Tower (MMX4) Because of low range
Lightning Web (MMX4) VERY hard to use
Ground Dash (MMX6) Hard to use too
Shining Ray (MMX8) Because of limited range
Guard Shell (MMX6) Very hard to control/aim
F-Laser (MMX5) Hard to control, especially in getting the armor part in Dark Dizzy's stage

[KirbyPink]

Top Spin (MM3) Because you get damaged too every once in a while?

Do not diss the mighty Top Spin!
http://www.youtube.c...EAE2DF22E8AC909

[Aya]

starforcenetwork, on 23 October 2011 - 03:04 PM, said:

Top Spin (MM3) Because you get damaged too every once in a while

Ahem.



Top Spin is actually a really good weapon. The problem is trying to hit the enemy without making your body contact the enemy as well. But if you can perfect that, this thing can rape just about EVERY enemy.

But anyways, that was my opinion. While on the topic of MM3, how about Gemini Laser? That thing is practically useless.

EDIT: Damn it, Kirby. Beat me to it.

[Sigma Zero X]

These are the ones that I remember well.

X series:

- Moving wheel/Zankourin (MMX7) - This weapon sucks, especially against the boss who is supposedly weak against this weapon.
- Tenshoha (MMX8) - This giga attack for Zero and Layer is fair at best. It is also dangerous to use it against the ones who are weak against this weapon (Dark Mantis and the real Sigma)
- Mettaur Crash (MMXCM) - I prefer using C-attacks against Mettaurs. As for Mettaur Gigant, I use action triggers against it.
- Vengeful Needles (MMXCM) - This weapon really sucks. All of Marino's other weapons are better than this one.

Legends series:

- Blade Arm (MML1): The power and range is not too good compared to other weapons.
- Aqua Blaster (MML2): It is only for the intro part and not really used for fighting.

This post has been edited by Sigma Zero X: 23 October 2011 - 04:08 PM

[ryder]

All of X8 weapons.....for X any way, i loved most of the weapon for Axl

[Sigma Zero X]

ryder, on 23 October 2011 - 10:23 PM, said:

All of X8 weapons.....for X any way,

I use the Squeeze Bomb with X and Alia sometimes when I need to negate shots from regular enemies (the charged version is not too good though, I'll give you that.) Thunder Dancer is pretty good too. I agree you about the other X8 weapons though.

To be honest, I use the X-Buster and Alia Buster more than their special weapons in X8.

[JediLink]

I would definitely say the Thunder Wool. What's it good for? You can't use it as an anti-air because it does a tiny amount of damage if the actual cloud hits. Instead, you have to use the lightning, which comes out so slowly that it's so hard to hit anything with. To top it off, it has an extremely pitiful amount of WE. The Thunder Wool is almost never helpful.

[ryder]

Sigma Zero X, on 24 October 2011 - 04:54 AM, said:

I use the Squeeze Bomb with X and Alia sometimes when I need to negate shots from regular enemies (the charged version is not too good though, I'll give you that.) Thunder Dancer is pretty good too. I agree you about the other X8 weapons though.

To be honest, I use the X-Buster and Alia Buster more than their special weapons in X8.

Well.... the X/Alia buster was pretty damn powerful in that game so i don't blame you, but also some of zero weapons kinda sucked...IMO cause they didnt have as much range as the Z saber (the fan , the hammer,.....and "teh" knuckles(which was just awful IMO)) but the Z spear( i think that was the name) and the sigma blade were pretty damn awesome....

[BladeWing]

Rising fire is also pretty useless since it can rarely hit things in certain areas.

[Irgy]

Power Stone from Mega Man 5.

For some reason I instinctively use only Mega Buster in actual stages, with exception of some of the really broken weapons. Power Stone in particular though I remember having really strange and shitty range. Rarely would I be able to land a proper hit on Charge Man or any enemy with it. Hell, I so rarely hit anything or cared to use it, I dunno if it even did decent enough damage to try and compensate.

[Sigma Zero X]

ryder, on 24 October 2011 - 10:10 PM, said:

Well.... the X/Alia buster was pretty damn powerful in that game so i don't blame you, but also some of zero weapons kinda sucked...IMO cause they didnt have as much range as the Z saber (the fan , the hammer,.....and "teh" knuckles(which was just awful IMO)) but the Z spear( i think that was the name) and the sigma blade were pretty damn awesome....

I also use the X/Alia buster powers of their ride chasers often in the Central White stage due to their versatile arsenal of regular and charged shots. If I wanted to get a combo, I can use the regular shots. If I wanted to shoot a powerful shot at a slightly farther range and play defensively, I can use the charged shots.

As far as Zero and Layer's weapons go, I only agree with you about the B-Fan (the fan weapon, although it is does pretty well against regular enemy bullets after beating Trilobyte.)

The T-Breaker (hammer) can ignore an enemy's barrier that is still active, including the Sigma's, and damage them. However, it does not hurt Lumine when his wing barriers are up during the Paradise Lost phase. You have to crack all 3 wing barriers to damage Lumine.

The K-Knuckle does not have range, but it has quite a bit of power in its attacks.

The D-Glaive (the spear-like lance) and the Sigma Blade are indeed too good. Although the hit box for the D-Glaive is smaller than the Z-Saber, Layer Rapier, and Sigma Blade, the glaive weapon has more range than any of the three swords.

This post has been edited by Sigma Zero X: 25 October 2011 - 05:25 AM

[ryder]

Sigma Zero X, on 25 October 2011 - 05:21 AM, said:

I also use the X/Alia buster powers of their ride chasers often in the Central White stage due to their versatile arsenal of regular and charged shots. If I wanted to get a combo, I can use the regular shots. If I wanted to shoot a powerful shot at a slightly farther range and play defensively, I can use the charged shots.

As far as Zero and Layer's weapons go, I only agree with you about the B-Fan (the fan weapon, although it is does pretty well against regular enemy bullets after beating Trilobyte.)

The T-Breaker (hammer) can ignore an enemy's barrier that is still active, including the Sigma's, and damage them. However, it does not hurt Lumine when his wing barriers are up during the Paradise Lost phase. You have to crack all 3 wing barriers to damage Lumine.

The K-Knuckle does not have range, but it has quite a bit of power in its attacks.

The D-Glaive (the spear-like lance) and the Sigma Blade are indeed too good. Although the hit box for the D-Glaive is smaller than the Z-Saber, Layer Rapier, and Sigma Blade, the glaive weapon has more range than any of the three swords.

i guess i have to use the weapons more but i wont change my mind about the Z knuckles

[Dark Seraph Lumine]

I can't believe no one here mentioned the "Time Stopper" in Mega Man 2. That thing seemed pretty useless unless you were in those areas with those burrowing drills in Metal Man's stage and Wily's second stage. Does the time stopper even damage an enemy? I mean, at least in Mega Man 5 where you get Bright Man's weapon, you can still shoot your buster at the weakness boss, but not so in Mega Man 2 with the Time Stopper, at least, not that I remember.

[neo b-mega]

Super arm

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I can't believe no one here mentioned the "Time Stopper" in Mega Man 2. That thing seemed pretty useless unless you were in those areas with those burrowing drills in Metal Man's stage and Wily's second stage. Does the time stopper even damage an enemy? I mean, at least in Mega Man 5 where you get Bright Man's weapon, you can still shoot your buster at the weakness boss, but not so in Mega Man 2 with the Time Stopper, at least, not that I remember.

Time stopper is not as useless as you think, Dark Seraph Lumine. It stops death rays in Quickman stage. Also, it damages Quickman.

Ah, and bright stopper is in MegaMan 4. In MegaMan 5 is gravity hold.

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Top Spin is actually a really good weapon. The problem is trying to hit the enemy without making your body contact the enemy as well. But if you can perfect that, this thing can rape just about EVERY enemy.

I agree totally.

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But anyways, that was my opinion. While on the topic of MM3, how about Gemini Laser? That thing is practically useless.

Is it really? It's totally helpful when you try to hit an enemy above or behind you. Also, ricochets look kinda cool.

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This post has been edited by lessthanthree: 28 October 2011 - 11:36 AM

[Silver_Stryker]

I resent everything bad said about the Z Knuckles. :<

The Z Knuckles are in the same situation as Top Spin. The user just needs to practice pulling off attacks at the perfect moment on enemies for devastating results. I particularly love the thunder uppercut thing you can do after beating gigabolt. It just needs even more practice to use because, if I recall correctly, you can alter the range in which you dash before performing the uppercut.


Of the Zero weapons in X8, I dislike the hammer the most. Low versatility.

[Model_O]

I found the charge kick slightly irritating, i mean yeah its easier to use than the top spin. Also the shield boomerang from the Zero series didnt see much use from me, except against the big computer thingys in Phoenix Magnions stage.

[Sigma Zero X]

I forgot to mention that Axl's Action Trigger as Mad Nautilus in Command Mission is not really useful at all IMO because Axl uses Mad Cocktail. Mad Cocktail hits enemies with different effects of virus, blind, bind, and berserk. No damage whatsoever and obviously useless against Bosses.

The DNA charge for Nautilus would have been more useful if Axl used Mad Ecstasy instead. Mad Ecstasy has powerful shots that can either have 6 shots hit 1 enemy, 3 shots hitting 2 enemies, or 2 shots hitting 3 enemies. The damage could have varied based on Axl's current attack power. It could be a great alternative to the non-elemental shots of Asura Knuckle and Sunburst with their fixed amount of hits. Unfortunately, Axl's stuck with Mad Cocktail. Then again, most of the bosses that Axl transforms into uses shot attacks anyway.

[Dynamo8]

Most of the special weapons from X7 and X8 for X. I mean for crying out loud, majority of them only had utility uses and they hardly do any damage at all. Axl on the other hand, had some really fun weapons to choose from. Well minus the part where the ammo is infinite for him, that kinda made the kid a bit overpowered.

And all the shield weapons from the Classic series. Take up so much ammo for so little uses.

[So Sweet]

I hate the Pharaoh shot ¬¬
I'm glad it changed to Pharaoh wave then.

[zuschzero]

Spark Shock, Hard Knuckle, Power Stone, Water Wave, Wind Storm, Thunder Wool