[GummiCandyful]

^^^ But Phoenix Wright has no place in a fighting game whatsoever-I mean, look just look at his Level 3 Hyper Combo. What a joke. Moreover, the reason why people are outraged by all of this is because X was the top voted character, yet he didn't make it in while the other two most requested (Strider and Wright), and other characters (Firebrand and Nemesis) that weren't even voted for, were included. And Nitsuma's excuse for this? X didn't have enough votes! Hahaha, real funny, but I'm totally not believing that one and pretty much am quite unhappy with how things have for the Megaman fans.

Call me a whiny fangirl, but I do believe that my and other people's reasons for feeling angry with Capcom/Nitsuma are pretty much warranted, especially since Capcom keeps spewing out nonsense like "Megaman isn't dead, he's an important brand to us". Lies.

[The World Warrior]

ChibiSaw, on 19 October 2011 - 02:56 AM, said:

let's say this. (i hope you read it because you know how hard is to me write something on english)

this game is mean to add variety, you know, everyone was complaining about mvc2 because like every character is the same (inb4 anyone here have played mvc2)

so, basically x if he is on mahvel 3 he is going to be like ARTHUR (zoning character) or RYU with a buster (rushdown character).

that's why x didn't make in.

also, everyone is hating on phoenix wright because you didn't get megaman, oh what a bunch of faggots, he is the most interesting character out of there.

and, compairing mk with mvc is like compairing megaman and mario because both are platformers

Don't start giving us that lame reasoning that X isn't in because of his moveset or playstyle. If they found out a way to make characters that don't even fight, like Phoenix Wright, playable then Mega Man X shouldn't be a problem. Oh and nice move there calling everyone faggots. Very clever.

[sluggish]

ChibiSaw, on 19 October 2011 - 02:56 AM, said:

bad words

I don't like Phoneix Wright in a fighting game.Does this make me a "insert bad word here" too o wise one.

Seriously bro please stop trying to insult people here.

[Spazboy225]

ChibiSaw, on 19 October 2011 - 02:56 AM, said:

let's say this. (i hope you read it because you know how hard is to me write something on english)

this game is mean to add variety, you know, everyone was complaining about mvc2 because like every character is the same (inb4 anyone here have played mvc2)

You can't inb4 the OP, that's against the rules.
Closer to the point, I have MvC2, and i hardly see anyone complain.

ChibiSaw, on 19 October 2011 - 02:56 AM, said:

so, basically x if he is on mahvel 3 he is going to be like ARTHUR (zoning character) or RYU with a buster (rushdown character).

I would think that he would play like Megaman from MvC1, but hey, to each his own.

ChibiSaw, on 19 October 2011 - 02:56 AM, said:

also, everyone is hating on phoenix wright because you didn't get megaman, oh what a bunch of faggots, he is the most interesting character out of there.

Who's hating? I'm not hating. Wright's the only character that I was looking forward to in this game.

ChibiSaw, on 19 October 2011 - 02:56 AM, said:

and, compairing mk with mvc is like compairing megaman and mario because both are platformers

Yeah, this doesn't make much sense. Where did this come from?

If you wanted to make that point have a little more punch, compare MvC3 to Soul Calibur.

[New Zero]

ChibiSaw, on 19 October 2011 - 03:38 AM, said:

and you don't give to me any argument, nice, how convincing.

mk is a ground-based fighting game, combos aren't so big enough (thats why there is a combo breaker), and hyper combos are hard to do (like sf super arts, is hard to see one super art combo) this type of fighting games is one of the most realistic (you can compare it with sf series)

mvc is an air based fighting game (aerial combos and that sort of things), combos are supposed to be big, that's why a bunch of them have infinites (like mvc2)
this type of games are called "magic" too (you can compare mvc with blazblue, guilty gear, arcana hearts... and them are so different)

there are my arguments

also, thanks for that -1, can you give me another one on this too?

I didn't address your argument the first time because I didn't understand it, so I was waiting for you to elaborate. And thank you for doing so. I can agree with the comparisons you made with MK and MvC, but in terms of what most people have been complaining about, in that MvC is not catering to what fans not only asked, but demanded for, Mortal Kombat is superior in that sense because the developers actually listened to fan requests and made them happy. If you disagree with that, so be it.

And I gave you the -1 for the "bunch of faggots" comment. That wasn't necessary sir. And I won't oblige you by giving you another.

[ChibiSaw]

The World Warrior, on 19 October 2011 - 10:33 AM, said:

Don't start giving us that lame reasoning that X isn't in because of his moveset or playstyle. If they found out a way to make characters that don't even fight, like Phoenix Wright.

sure, because phoenix is original:
evidence gathering
diferent proyectiles for each evidence
maya assist

what would x have? a buster? oh yeah, so original, more zoning characters, charged weapons? zoning to, so original, armors? OH YEAH, DEVIL TRIGGER, SO ORIGINAL.

im a megaman/megaman x/megaman legends/megaman zero fan, but this is absurd

[ChibiSaw]

sluggish, on 19 October 2011 - 11:20 AM, said:

I don't like Phoneix Wright in a fighting game.Does this make me a "insert bad word here" too o wise one.

Seriously bro please stop trying to insult people here.

sorry dude, fix'd

Spazboy225, on 19 October 2011 - 11:58 AM, said:

Closer to the point, I have MvC2, and i hardly see anyone complain.

LOL, you haven't see how the casuals talk about it.

Spazboy225, on 19 October 2011 - 11:58 AM, said:

I would think that he would play like Megaman from MvC1, but hey, to each his own.

basically, S is going to be the buster. everyone is going to mash S all the day, so X = ZONING

Spazboy225, on 19 October 2011 - 11:58 AM, said:

Who's hating? I'm not hating. Wright's the only character that I was looking forward to in this game.

maybe you don't but there are a bunch of people who are saying "HURR CRAPCOM, YOU SO SILLY, YOU PUT THIS FAG INSTEAD OF MEGAMAN, I HATE YOURS!"
wright is what megaman can't ever be on this game... a original character.

Spazboy225, on 19 October 2011 - 11:58 AM, said:

Yeah, this doesn't make much sense. Where did this come from?

*points at previous post"

mk is a ground-based fighting game, combos aren't so big enough (thats why there is a combo breaker), and hyper combos are hard to do (like sf super arts, is hard to see one super art combo) this type of fighting games is one of the most realistic (you can compare it with sf series)

mvc is an air based fighting game (aerial combos and that sort of things), combos are supposed to be big, that's why a bunch of them have infinites (like mvc2)
this type of games are called "magic" too (you can compare mvc with blazblue, guilty gear, arcana hearts... and them are so different)

Spazboy225, on 19 October 2011 - 11:58 AM, said:

If you wanted to make that point have a little more punch, compare MvC3 to Soul Calibur.

that's make less sense, soul calibur is a 3d fight game. mvc is a 2d (2.5d if you like) fighting game.
you can compare soul calibur with tekken

New Zero, on 19 October 2011 - 06:41 PM, said:

I can agree with the comparisons you made with MK and MvC, but in terms of what most people have been complaining about, in that MvC is not catering to what fans not only asked, but demanded for, Mortal Kombat is superior in that sense because the developers actually listened to fan requests and made them happy. If you disagree with that, so be it.

and thats why everyone plays ermac, raiden, noob or kung lao online, mk isn't a competitive game, is broken as hell, but hey, fans are ok with it.
maybe mk have story mode, maybe it haves a most detailed and easier mission mode (challenge tower), but at the end of the day you know that game is made for casual gamers (online lags, shitty players online, massive content offline). thats why i don't like it way too much.

New Zero, on 19 October 2011 - 06:41 PM, said:

And I gave you the -1 for the "bunch of faggots" comment. That wasn't necessary sir. And I won't oblige you by giving you another.

oh, sorry, i was a bit upset (you know, sometimes you feel people didn't hear you, and sometimes i hate the fact of how much people didn't play a game because them are in "strike" with that company, that makes me think how childish them are)
anyway, i fix it

P.S. sorry for the double post

[AquaTeamV3]

X (or any other Megaman) could potentially fit into the game and still manage to be a unique character. Having a single button projectile in no way forces you into a zoning role. Look at Volnutt in TvC, he was a very versatile character that could play a variety of roles. With tons of weapons/battle chips/etc to choose from, the possibilities for a moveset are darn near limitless. Also, the Phoenix Wright bashing is pretty dumb. So what if he's not originally a fighter, neither was Norimaro from Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter. He's different, that's the point. Nothing wrong with having comic relief in a fighter...

Either way, I'm not really upset that Megaman's not in the game. I like fighting games, and the game honestly looks like it'll be a blast either way. If we get an iteration of Megaman, then that's great! But if not, I'm not going to mope around about it.

[TheDarkAce]

At least he makes a cameo that's better than in a cemetery with a tombstone that says "Here Lies Megaman X, Burn In Hell You Dick" At least there's a glimmer of hope in that cameo in the new stage which is a chance for DLC. (Or for MvC3 Super Ultimate Arcade Edition Mark VIII)

[Mac]

Alrighty, guys.

Niitsuma said X didn't work out because of moveset issues and things of that nature. That issue is now null and void due to Phoenix Wright being in. Here's the thing...Strider, Phoenix Wright, Frank West maybe Vergil too were like, the only characters high up on the list of desirables. The rest were clearly not wanted by many at ALL. Especially Nemesis (a FOURTH Resident Evil character -_-) and Rocket Raccoon. It's one of the most baffling things, really. So then we get over those selections and hope for DLC. We get teased yet again with a Mega Man easter egg and get taunted once more by X being a card. The last sliver of hope, and I mean absolute last, is if characters already in the game have cards also. If they do, then there's still a possibility. If not, then all the characters that are cards are for sure going to remain cards. =/

Also, if we don't see a Classic Mega Man card...then he will most likely be the iteration of Mega Man we get as possible future DLC and the excuse about the poster is just a cover up. Capcom has had some rotten luck with leaks in the past, after all.

[DEJO]

my two cents on the X... that he can have a unique moveset..and this is form a fan game ( and anyone whose anyone of an x fan knows this and seen this already).....




and this from fan developers....im pretty sure Niitsuma CAN make a unique moveset for x that wont make like other clone characters (shit I would be pretty darn happy if He went all greedy and copied that whole moveset and claimed as his own, though thats kinda bad)...another reason? Phoenix Wright...if Phoenix Wright can have a moveset which ALL HE IS A LAWYER AND ALL HE DID WAS SCREAM AND YELL OBJECTION!! (and no one can go against me on that).... Niitsuma gave him a unique moveset and from the videos ive seen looks fun and good to play.. so there's is no reason to say that X, Rock or any other Megaman character..heck any other Capcom character that would not be seen to be as fight.er, cant be made or said to be a clone charcter like others...




Overall I'm still keeping up with news but my priority to get and play this is pretty low to this day...

[Spazboy225]

ChibiSaw, on 19 October 2011 - 07:36 PM, said:

that's make less sense, soul calibur is a 3d fight game. mvc is a 2d (2.5d if you like) fighting game.

What was stated before was the fact that you can't compare MMX to Mario just because they're platformers.

You could however, argue that MvC is close to MK (Although loosley) and they are 2-D fighters.

If I told you SC was a fighting game, would I not be correct?
If I told you MvC was a fighting game, would I not be correct?

Although they are two popular fighting series, one is NOTHING like the other, much like Mario is NOTHING like MMX.

That was the point I was trying to make.

ChibiSaw, on 19 October 2011 - 07:36 PM, said:

you can compare soul calibur with tekken

OH MAH GAWD, STREET FIGHTER CROSS TEKKEN AND SC5 GUISE. I CAN'T WAIT.

Damn, there's something wrong with me.

[AquaTeamV3]

elreyjgz, on 20 October 2011 - 01:28 AM, said:

(shit I would be pretty darn happy if He went all greedy and copied that whole moveset and claimed as his own, though thats kinda bad)...another reason? Phoenix Wright...if Phoenix Wright can have a moveset which ALL HE IS A LAWYER AND ALL HE DID WAS SCREAM AND YELL OBJECTION!! (and no one can go against me on that).... Niitsuma gave him a unique moveset and from the videos ive seen looks fun and good to play.. so there's is no reason to say that X, Rock or any other Megaman character..heck any other Capcom character that would not be seen to be as fight.er, cant be made or said to be a clone charcter like others...

The thing about Niitsuma is that you can't take everything he says at face value. He also said that Sentinel/Yatterman-2 wouldn't be in MvC3/TvCUAS respectively, and look what happened. And Capcom has taken movesets from MUGEN characters before. Ghost Rider's moveset is comprised nearly entirely of someone's MUGEN character. Maybe they're trying to come up with a moveset for MM, who knows? Only time will tell.

[The World Warrior]

ChibiSaw, on 19 October 2011 - 07:34 PM, said:

sure, because phoenix is original:
evidence gathering
diferent proyectiles for each evidence
maya assist

what would x have? a buster? oh yeah, so original, more zoning characters, charged weapons? zoning to, so original, armors? OH YEAH, DEVIL TRIGGER, SO ORIGINAL.

im a megaman/megaman x/megaman legends/megaman zero fan, but this is absurd

Sounds to me like you just have a problem with zoning characters and "originality". He doesn't have to be limited to zoning you know. There are 8 of the main Mega Man X games in total meaning that there are at least 64 different attacks that can be taken and be used for his moveset. Then there's armors, giga attacks, and any sort of original attacks they can create for MVC3. He does not have to be a zoning character. The moveset excuse is just not valid.

[JOHNY BOMB!]

Reading up on the ability of that "X Card" it just provide an air dash? That's going to look really werid on the larger characters. And it's a B-ranked as well, bummer. I was hoping they put more thought into it like giving characters a quick-charge ability i.e. Zero buster level charges, Skrull's H attack, Thor's Mighty Strike...etc.

Or lengthen a characters status buff duration like Dante's Devil Trigger, Wolverine's Beserker speed boost...etc. or something along that line. But no, we get a simple air dash from X? I know dashing is a reference from his one of his signature abilities but come on Capcom, put some thought into that card at least.

*stares at slain/ apprehend poster at the Metro City stage*

[AquaTeamV3]

I don't think they're supposed to make too much sense. Thanos gives parrying for crying out loud (that should be Ken lol), so there's a lot of ambiguity. X giving dashing is pretty darn accurate IMO. It's naked X, not armored.

[JOHNY BOMB!]

That's what I mean, most of the abilities don't even match the character's on the cards. That dash should of have MM Volnutt on it since most of the time you're dashing throughout the entire island than just running

Also sort of agree on Ken giving the parry move, personally I'd prefer to boost damage/ lessen recovery on anti-air moves due to Ken having a slightly stronger shoryuken than Ryu's.

[DarkBladeZ7]

Megaman...as a CHILDREN'S CARD GAME!
....
with motorcycles

[MXA]

New Zero, on 19 October 2011 - 06:41 PM, said:

I didn't address your argument the first time because I didn't understand it, so I was waiting for you to elaborate. And thank you for doing so. I can agree with the comparisons you made with MK and MvC, but in terms of what most people have been complaining about, in that MvC is not catering to what fans not only asked, but demanded for, Mortal Kombat is superior in that sense because the developers actually listened to fan requests and made them happy. If you disagree with that, so be it.

And I gave you the -1 for the "bunch of faggots" comment. That wasn't necessary sir. And I won't oblige you by giving you another.

You gotta be kidding me, seriously every time I read your post I get more and more sure that you don't know a shit about X and are just a casual player. Not a tourny player right? now tell me zero fanboy, what does zero have that makes him unique? hu? the buster? Oh how nice!! the only thing that make zero actually not looking like an inferior dante is something that he doesn't use in almost every game hi is playable. Pathethic isn't it? Calling X unoriginal? xDDD you aren't a megaman x fan, I guarantee. Pls go on an name me a single character in the game who can charge every single move he has while moving. Name a character who can double air dash in the air. Now, do you really think X would only have one armor as a special? pathethic, seriously pathethic as hell. First of all your zero doesn't bring anything to the table, is just and inferior dante and it will remain as an inferior dante. And now talking about wright? o yay! let's be happy about a joke character who doesn't fight at all! you know what? this is a fighting game where people fight each other. You call that unique? well, let's make a character who can fart and use plenty of moves that people don't use in serious fights that would be unique too!!!
seriously zero fanboy, try harder, because in my concern you are just a casual player who keeps praising the most crappy choices I've ever seen and then call X unoriginal? xDDDD did you know arthur is crap tier? and don't dare to compare crappy arthur with X, because arthur can't even dash!

ChibiSaw, on 19 October 2011 - 07:34 PM, said:

sure, because phoenix is original:
evidence gathering
diferent proyectiles for each evidence
maya assist

what would x have? a buster? oh yeah, so original, more zoning characters, charged weapons? zoning to, so original, armors? OH YEAH, DEVIL TRIGGER, SO ORIGINAL.

im a megaman/megaman x/megaman legends/megaman zero fan, but this is absurd

Now this one is a wright fanboy too. Let's add some farting characters right!? that's plenty of uniqueness, or better yet! a character who fights by laughing ;). You don't deserve to be a megaman x fan nor a zero fan. Every single true zero fan respect X and knows what kind of uniqueness he would bring to this game, but your stupid constant bashing around a lot of characters is pathethic. Let's get rid of all the characters who aren't unique judging your taste.
Let's get rid of ironman, cap, thor, hulk, and so on because in the end most of them just are punching spammer guys. Now if we get rid of all of them what does we have? o yeah! that's right! a crappy game that nobody would buy because the mayority doesn't give a shit about your random obscure choices. And for the final blow! suck it zero fanboy! your character is one of the most overused and brain deads on this game who doesn't bring anything unique and best of it is that I main him better than you, you know why? because I actually go to tournys, not like you who are justa casual player and doesn't know a shit about the game.
Keep playing online kid, you won't be good no matter what.

[Irgy]

MXA, on 26 October 2011 - 11:14 PM, said:

-post-

Yeah.. no. Keep the insults and other such unnecessary remarks to yourself. Also, don't double post, just use the edit button to add another reply to someone (though I'll merge these two anyways). I guess I never sent a proper message about this to you last time, so to emphasize the point I'll be suspending your posting privileges for 24 hours.