[Dark Seraph Lumine]

Does anyone else here like this idea? Its not quite 2D side scroller, but not quite 3D either? I liked the Golden Axe series, and I think a 2 1/2D theme for Mega Man X9 would be nice for a change, because I love the 2D side scrollers and hate 3D, but 2 1/2 D is great as well. So would anyone here like X9 to be in Golden Axe 2 1/2D format? I like the fact that 2 1/2 D is much like a 2D side scroller, but not enough 3D to make me hate it.

[Vérité]

X8 styled. Any other format would not fit the X series' constantly changing and updating graphics and mechanics (Can't really say updated for the halt we've been at, hmm)

[『ちびまる子ちゃん』正人]

Okay.

Don't we have like, 90,000 threads like this? Style of X9, Graphics, Gameplay...?

[Silver_Stryker]

Chiba, I'm surprised you didn't jump on my thread saying it should be moved here. BAM.


Do you mean making an X game in the beat-em up genre, Lumine? If so, while I could see a game like that working, I don't think people would support it as an X9 title; what with nitpicking and such these days. I could easily see X outfitted with a slew of maneuvering moves to keep away from the enemy along with one powerful knock-back move so he could keep on spamming his long range attacks.


But if you mean a typical X game, only with the ability to "walk up and down", I guess that'd be a litle interesting. I'd love to fight Shadow Devil on those terms, or see how trollish they could get with spike traps. lol

[Sigma Zero X]

I would be fine with it. Golden Axe rocks, although I am far from being good enough at that game to get a decent score.

[『ちびまる子ちゃん』正人]

Whatev.

The idea he's saying... Just Battle Network Fighting Gameplay style, except you aren't restricted to spots on the field, and it's like this the entire level.

[volt-kid]

Back before it came out, I thought I read that X7 was going to be like that, but then found out that it was a free scroller.

I have to say that I would like that. X7 had its own format. X8 had its own. Why not X9? The game would have to require a free scroll format but still have only two main pathways.

Example:
http://www.google.co...1t:429,r:11,s:0

Lets pretend that screenshot is a level in X9. Your character could still walk as close to the camera as possible but is likely to fall in the water. Your character could walk in the doorway in the background which might appear to be a secret room, shop, or whatever. But the main path is moving from left to right.

I like this idea, Lumine. I'm in on this.

[『ちびまる子ちゃん』正人]

X8 didn't have it's own format. It went back to X-X6's traditions because of X7 itself being incomplete.

Nevertheless...

Anyone play Scott Pilgrim VS. The World? Yeah.

[volt-kid]

Chiba Masato, on 23 August 2011 - 07:37 PM, said:

X8 didn't have it's own format. It went back to X-X6's traditions because of X7 itself being incomplete.

Nevertheless...

Anyone play Scott Pilgrim VS. The World? Yeah.

Well it kind of did. Camera angles would change when your character walks around a corner. Like in the Panda's stage, you could walk around the fountain and then later see it in the background. But whatever.

Scott Pilgrim VS. The World, huh? I haven't played that one, but it looks interesting.

[『ちびまる子ちゃん』正人]

The camera angles weren't a new style. It was "sprucing" up our Mega Man gameplay. Think Mega Man X4 compared to X3. Better graphics, better engine, new tricks can be tried. Mainly, they tried making a straight line into an interesting course.

See it on YouTube. It's EXACTLY like what DSL's trying to get across.

[Terminus]

I recall something like this on the Capcom-Unity boards a while ago and remember someone mentioning what ChAIR Entertainment did for their game Shadow Complex. 2D gameplay in a 3D potential world (shoot into background distance as well as up/down/side) and I think it would be a good potential for it. Very Metroid-esque.

[Nintendo_Jones]

2.5D doesn't mean what you think it means. 2.5 D is 3d graphics with 2d gameplay. X8 is a perfect example of this. So is Viewtiful Joe. Golden Axe is a beat em up. Same genre as stuff like Final Fight and Double Dragon.

[TuKéZu]

2½D or 2,5D can mean a multitude of things, not limited to what you said. For example, there's sidescrollers with 3D objects in a 2D environment (e.g. New Super Mario Bros, Sonic 4/Rush...) and 3D games with 2D objects (e.g. Doom and games based on its engine) and then we also have 3D objects moving in 3D but in a background that is rendered in 2D (Older Resident Evil titles, PSX Final Fantasy games (partially - only in specific areas.)

[Flame]

TuKéZu, on 24 August 2011 - 01:21 PM, said:

2½D or 2,5D can mean a multitude of things, not limited to what you said.

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and 3D games with 2D objects (e.g. Doom and games based on its engine) and then we also have 3D objects moving in 3D but in a background that is rendered in 2D (Older Resident Evil titles, PSX Final Fantasy games (partially - only in specific areas.)

Those arent 2.5D...

[TuKéZu]

Huh. I was pretty sure at least those Doom games were...

In any case, my point is that those 3D sidescrollers aren't the only thing that's 2,5D.

[『ちびまる子ちゃん』正人]

2.5D is more along the lines of Mega Man X7. It's a game not in 2D nor 3D gameplay. Sonic Unleashed is like this.

[Nintendo_Jones]

TuKéZu, on 24 August 2011 - 02:08 PM, said:

Huh. I was pretty sure at least those Doom games were...

In any case, my point is that those 3D sidescrollers aren't the only thing that's 2,5D.

I know it's just wikipedia, but what they say is:

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The term "2.5D" is also applied to 3D games that use polygonal graphics to render the world and/or characters, but whose gameplay is restricted to a 2D plane.

http://en.wikipedia....l_playing_field
It basically means that it's a classic, 2D style game that has modern 3D graphics. You could make a Golden Axe game with 3D graphics and call it 2.5D, but Golden Axe itself is not 2.5D unless there is a Golden Axe remake that I'm not aware of. I guess the main point, though, is that 2.5D doesn't really explain the gameplay, just the style of graphics. Megaman X8 has the gameplay as X1-X6, for the most part, but 1-6 are 2D games and X8 is 2.5D.