[DropkickWeasel]

Sigma Zero X, on 28 January 2012 - 03:43 AM, said:

I'll be real here. I actually like BBA Megaman. It must be his charisma. It must be his manliness. It must be my twisted mind or something. Oh well.

To be honest, I dig it too, haha. I can't wait to try him out.

[Spazboy225]

BBA Megaman is in the Game.



That's cool, I can take the joke.

(PSVita/PS3 exclusive)



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[Sigma Zero X]

Now that I think about it, it feels weird that although Jin and Dictator Bison were shown before Pacman and Megaman via cinematic trailer, Pacman and Megaman gameplays were shown a few weeks later when the latter two were revealed. No Jin or Dictator gameplay was shown at all during those times. It seems that Capcom is planning something special with Jin and Bison.

[DropkickWeasel]

They are probably just taking a bit longer because they will be showcasing the teammates of both Jin and Dictator, which is going to be Xiaoyu and Juri respectively. Probably just compiling some team play footage before putting up on the internet.

[Tony]

Let's see here...
Two Megaman games cancelled. X gets the shaft in the MVC3 series. Some stupid ass X1 game on a device that nobody even plays. Capcom (as well as a bunch of idiots who support Capcom and their blatant disrespect and unprofessionalism) constantly trolling us about it. And now this. What next? How low can these idiots go? When will they stop? Capcom may as well claim that Megaman is, in fact, dead now. And here I thought the Megaman series made the company into what it was today, thanks to the efforts of Keiji Inafune himself!
Businesses are meant to serve the consumers with quality products and maintain a positive relationship with them. I understand that people like different products and have different taste (a la purchase decision process), but this is ridiculous. Megaman just happens to BE a quality product, and the leadership at Capcom is fucking it up! And these guys expect us to be HAPPY about it?! BULL FUCKING SHIT!

I am... officially done with Capcom. The 90's was where these guys prosper from. Nowadays these idiot are nothing but trash. Garbage. This is what we get for supporting a company like Capcom. Insult to injury, Capcom is known for doing stupid shit anyway...! Such as supporting SOPA and then suddenly changing their minds, letting Ono fuck up the fighting game community, treating their mascot like shit, doing weird things with their game story lines, trolling the costumers at the most inappropriate times, and so much more...
Megaman is always going to be one of the most recognizable and respectful video game series - even if nobody else WANTS it to!

[Dynamo8]

^^Whoa.... even though I like Capcom games in terms of "quality" I don't dig their business practices at all. And that's something they need to change, immediately.
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Telos, on 27 January 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:

Probably because it isn't in good taste at all.

Honestly, I'm starting to feel less disgusted and more impressed by how far Capcom is willing to go to lose customers. I mean, seriously, that's some serious dedication towards proving you're an asshole to people.

Hope this cheers ya up dude, at least the sales on UMvC3 didn't go so well as Capcom expected. and MK9 was voted Fighting Game of the year 2011.

Now looking at BB Megaman, I'm just well . . . confused here, not sure if I should be upset or be laughing at it as a joke character. Well at least Pac-Man looks awesome.

[Metal X]

Dynamo8, on 31 January 2012 - 10:29 PM, said:

Now looking at BB Megaman, I'm just well . . . confused here, not sure if I should be upset or be laughing at it as a joke character.

At first I laughed, but then I thought about it... As I do with most things in life...

[Telos]

Dynamo8, on 31 January 2012 - 10:29 PM, said:

Hope this cheers ya up dude, at least the sales on UMvC3 didn't go so well as Capcom expected. and MK9 was voted Fighting Game of the year 2011.

Are you surprised? I can only imagine how many people decided to boycott UMvC3 based on the fact alone that they'd already bought MvC3 a few months prior and were getting ripped off by Capcom. Not to mention the fact that UMvC3 didn't HAVE anything to offer when compared to MK9.

Capcom's goin' to be finding out the hard way what happens when you piss off your consumers this year, I reckon, particularly considering the colossal backlash that 'dmc' is receiving - hell, even Ninja Theory seems to have realized how unloved their bastardization of the franchise is turning out to be since they've gone on record to claim "it's really an alternate reality version of Dante!" so as to reduce the sheer 'what the fuck did you do' from the clearly huge supply of angry customers.

[Tony]

Why do I even bother? The more interesting question is, why do any of us bother? I just realized that Keiji Inafune himself is the one who wanted this... Trashy Megaman wannabe in the STxT roster. This game has been in production for the last two or three years. This still does not sit well with me at all. I don't understand what is so special about this version of Megaman, other than the fact that it looks like a terrible character off of a super hero flick. Hell, I draw better than that!
This is what we get for supporting a fraudulent company that Capcom is nowadays. It does not matter if I am a fighting game enthusiast, I will not support this game how it treats it true mascot. What Capcom seems to forget is that Megaman is supposedly the official mascot, while Ryu is the "unofficial" mascot, as well as one of the more recognizable fighting game characters (along with Kazuya Mishima and Terry Bogard, as well as other fighting game protagonist).
If I were in charge of a video game company, I would NEVER go out of my way to disrespect my fans wishes, nor would I make faulty games on purpose. This is just what Capcom is doing right now, and they expect us to be... happy about it!
How?
Good companies design good games for good players! It not that complicated really, but for Capcom, it is. I really don't understand this recent newfound hatred of the Megaman series at all - This is not just because Keiji Inafune left the company. I notice that despite the fact that the Megaman series have one of the best quality games, it is always so damn... underrated... It never gets the respect it deserves! And, Capcom is pretty much screwing the series all to hell! None of this makes any sense whatsoever.

[Metal X]

Tony, on 09 February 2012 - 02:22 PM, said:

What Capcom seems to forget is that Megaman is supposedly the official mascot, while Ryu is the "unofficial" mascot, as well as one of the more recognizable fighting game characters (along with Kazuya Mishima and Terry Bogard, as well as other fighting game protagonist).

I think they passed the torch to Ryu a long time ago...

[Telos]

Tony, on 09 February 2012 - 02:22 PM, said:

Why do I even bother? The more interesting question is, why do any of us bother? I just realized that Keiji Inafune himself is the one who wanted this... Trashy Megaman wannabe in the STxT roster. This game has been in production for the last two or three years. This still does not sit well with me at all. I don't understand what is so special about this version of Megaman, other than the fact that it looks like a terrible character off of a super hero flick. Hell, I draw better than that!

Hey. Genius. Bad Boxart Megaman was suggested by Inafune back when Inafune was under the impression that there'd be multiple Megaman releases, to serve as a playful joke character amidst a slew of other, non-comical content. Not his fault Capcom decided to shut down every single Megaman release after he left.

[elreyjgz]

Telos, on 09 February 2012 - 10:29 PM, said:

Hey. Genius. Bad Boxart Megaman was suggested by Inafune back when Inafune was under the impression that there'd be multiple Megaman releases, to serve as a playful joke character amidst a slew of other, non-comical content. Not his fault Capcom decided to shut down every single Megaman release after he left.

exactly....so I dont really know why many people think that they're doing it on purpose...some need need to open thier eyes and see what was REAL point of BB Megaman than just thinking it was trolling for shits and giggles...

If you guys really want to show support for megaman....dont find BB Megaman as negative aspect then...enjoy it...

my two cents..

[Telos]

The only reason I dislike BB Megaman's inclusion is that it seems like it's in bad taste now, even if the original premise was not - you'd know the reaction it'd bring about from people, so the wiser move would be to try and at least not come off as a bigger prick than you're already coming across as. I mean, if it was such a difficult thing for them to do to replace him on the 'short' notice that was Capcom's endless slew of trolling and the fiasco with wanting X in MvC3, then in theory they could've just removed the character model but keep the moveset and animations (which is NOT impossible, Tekken does it every single release with Mokujin), omitted him from the release roster, and then added a different Megaman model afterwards using the same moveset as a DLC character, because let's face it, it's Capcom, there's going to be DLC anyway.

[Tony]

Telos, on 09 February 2012 - 10:29 PM, said:

Hey. Genius. Bad Boxart Megaman was suggested by Inafune back when Inafune was under the impression that there'd be multiple Megaman releases, to serve as a playful joke character amidst a slew of other, non-comical content. Not his fault Capcom decided to shut down every single Megaman release after he left.

Hey. Genius. I think I made that point clear in my last comment about realizing that Inafune wanted BB Megaman in this game. And, it still doesn't sit well with me. Besides, I find it funny these guys actually WENT out of their way to put BB Megaman in this game, despite blatant demands for Megaman X in MVC3 back in late 2010 (around the same time Inafune left) as well as the whole Megaman Legends 3 fiasco, and once more on UMVC3. Insult to injury, BB Megaman doesn't even play any real role in the game and is only there for the sake of marketing and being a joke character of a game that was supposed to exclusively revolve around Street Fighter and Tekken characters fighting each other. As I said before, Capcom is nothing more than a joke now.

[Telos]

Good job, you just about ignored every fact to the contrary of what you just said, as well as the fact where I was defending Inafune from your lashing out against him, as if he was somehow 'in on it' in regards to some evil scheme to intentionally put Bad Boxart Megaman in the game just to piss people off. They didn't "go out of their way" to put Bad Boxart Megaman in this game. He was already there. *Facepalm* And if you're gonna call joke characters pointless and a sign of a company sucking, then I guess Namco is already a failure in your eyes since they put Gon in Tekken 3.

[Tony]

Telos, on 12 February 2012 - 01:51 AM, said:

Good job, you just about ignored every fact to the contrary of what you just said, as well as the fact where I was defending Inafune from your lashing out against him, as if he was somehow 'in on it' in regards to some evil scheme to intentionally put Bad Boxart Megaman in the game just to piss people off. They didn't "go out of their way" to put Bad Boxart Megaman in this game. He was already there. *Facepalm* And if you're gonna call joke characters pointless and a sign of a company sucking, then I guess Namco is already a failure in your eyes since they put Gon in Tekken 3.

You misunderstood me. When the hell did I blame Inafune for anything? Inafune is NOT the one who has a reputation of trolling his fans (Capcom's stupidity is one of the reasons he left the company in the first place)! I just said (for the THIRD time), that I realized that Inafune is the one who wanted BB Megaman in this game and it does not sit well with me. Then I complained about Capcom being stupid and the Megaman series not getting any real respect for the quality it represents. I said those things because Capcom could have done so much more with the Megaman franchise but decided to act stupid instead. I blame CAPCOM. NOT Inafune. Capcom. There is no fucking "evil scheme" or whatever bullshit you're claiming. If anything, Capcom may have had several chances to put another version of Megaman in if Inafune allowed it, but that's apparently not the case sense BB Megaman is already announced as an official character.
That little "facepalm" of yours should be meant for Capcom's erratic tendencies, NOT ME!! ... And, what makes you think that I would judge a company based on "joke characters"...!!!??? I am not mad about joke characters. It's the... character in question: BB Megaman. Now remember that Capcom could have done better, and now this. It's as if Capcom is making a fool out of the MM series after the fact that they messed with its fan base.

[Telos]

Once again you're just ranting and raving about the evils of Capcom in an incoherent mess. Oh, and I believe the part where you said "Why do I even bother? The more interesting question is, why do any of us bother? I just realized that Keiji Inafune himself is the one who wanted this... Trashy Megaman wannabe in the STxT roster. This game has been in production for the last two or three years. This still does not sit well with me at all." which can effectively be summed up as you hating any remote decision whatsoever to use Bad Boxart Megaman, which in turn means you're making it seem like Inafune's part of the problem.

Let me stress the point you're still missing here; there's nothing wrong with Bad Boxart Megaman in and of itself. There isn't, plain and simple. He's a joke - get a sense of humor. The only problem here is the fact that the joke comes at a bad time. Had there been a ton of other Megaman games like they had planned then nobody would be complaining about Bad Boxart Megaman - 'cept maybe you, evidently.

So no, that facepalm you definitely earned, since you don't seem to be really getting the point of why Bad Boxart Megaman was even in there in the first place. You're trying to make it seem like they intentionally decided on Bad Boxart Megaman just to be dicks - which does amount to you spouting about some "evil scheme", because they didn't, because, repeating myself for what, the third, maybe fourth time now, HE WAS ALWAYS MEANT TO BE IN THE GAME. There was never any other plan for this. They were going to put Bad Boxart Megaman in from pretty much the very start, as per Inafune's suggestion, again, because it would have been funny.

The only person here who doesn't seem to be getting that and is somehow convinced that the reason they're releasing Bad Boxart Megaman is just to kick you in the balls personally, is you.

Are we slightly miffed about the presence of Bad Boxart Megaman? Sure. Is it because we think Capcom is going out of its way to be assholes to us? On this particular occasion, no. Only reason Bad Boxart Megaman has the rest of us irked is because, more than anything else, it's a reminder of all the other awesome Megaman content that was being planned when they decided to put him in SFxT.

[Tony]

What the fuck? There is no "incoherent mess." I know exactly what I'm talking about. What part of "there are so many things that Capcom could have done overtime" and "that it almost seems like Capcom is making a fool of series after the fact that they messed with its fan base" do you not understand? That's implying that Capcom could have developed one or two games in relation to the series. (i.e. MML3 or Rockman Online). - Even YOU said that the joke was now done at bad timing - OF COURSE INAFUNE WOULD THINK ITS FUNNY - but it really isn't now and you can pretty much take a wild guess why. That statement you quoted wasn't the only thing I said either, though there might have been some minor oversight of me wording this the wrong way. I talked about how dumb Capcom really is as a company - do yourself a favor and quit accusing me of blaming Inafune! I'm not mad about him wanting the character in at all... That was 2010 when the game was in development process. I am mad about the fact these guys could have done a better job of managing their game series, and BB Megaman sort of gives a bad impression... Therefore, Capcom sucks as company!
There were many opportunities for them create other games, probably put X in the MVC3 games - They did, so another alternative would be that they could have changed the BB Megaman into another version of Megaman under Inafune's supervision so that it would fit into the series, but never bothered to do so, which is part of the reason I "rant and rave" on Capcom itself. I already understood that this character was in by Inafune's request on several posts now. What it basically comes down to is that Capcom decision making process is sorry due to what they could have done, therefore, I do NOT have much respect for the company as much as I did before obviously. At this point, I don't care about "sense of humor". I don't care about your facepalm, either. Save that shit for somebody who actually enjoys Capcom's inconsistencies. I am not going to like this design just because somebody does. If anything, I would not have minded BB Megaman being in the game, if Capcom never cancelled its other projects. But, sense that is not the case... I still say that Capcom is a joke.

[Metal X]

Ahhhhhh dude. Give it a rest. PLEASE!!

I get it, ur pissed, but it's not doing any good. At all...

Look, I hate the BBMM inclusion too. It has nothing to do with STxT. Nor does Pac Man & Cole for that manner... The game's not called Capcom vs. Namco, but with them involved it might as well be.

Here's my final thing with BBMM. Why did they have to make him so fat?? Why does he have a stupid voice?? The Original BadBoxart Megaman was muscular and looked like a dick. I would imagine him with a stereotypical heroic voice and really cliche quotes. THAT would've been hilarious.

I don't like the decisions that Capcom's made in the past, and it definitely seemed Anti-Inafune to not include a DLC X or Megaman, (which I never held my breath for in the first place. We all know Zero is the new fighting Capcom posterboy of the MM Universe). I can't speak for the Legends series, 'cause I never followed it, but that was fucked up too.

But in this case... if Infaune really DID request this back when things were GOOD? And more to the point, that Capcom STILL followed through with it?? That's not too terrible, now is it?

I'm still a Capcom fan. MvC3 was amazing. I'm not bothering with Ultimate, because I don't care about many of the new characters. And despite the additional characters, I can't wait until this thing comes out. Let's not forget the fact that Ryu&Ken can totally team up against Paul&Law and have a fucking shit storm of a fight. Those tag ins, specials and everything else seem so smooth and fun. And I have to admit, after seeing the BB video, I noticed that even HE has some pretty sweet moves....

It's not all bad man. I just... WHATEVER!!! He's in the game. We can't change it. We'll get over it. And he'll probably be very fun to play. Call me an Inconsistant Capcom Fan, but I just wanna play a new fighting game this Spring.

[Tony]

Metal Man X, on 12 February 2012 - 05:57 PM, said:

Ahhhhhh dude. Give it a rest. PLEASE!!

I get it, ur pissed, but it's not doing any good. At all...

Look, I hate the BBMM inclusion too. It has nothing to do with STxT. Nor does Pac Man & Cole for that manner... The game's not called Capcom vs. Namco, but with them involved it might as well be.

Here's my final thing with BBMM. Why did they have to make him so fat?? Why does he have a stupid voice?? The Original BadBoxart Megaman was muscular and looked like a dick. I would imagine him with a stereotypical heroic voice and really cliche quotes. THAT would've been hilarious.

I don't like the decisions that Capcom's made in the past, and it definitely seemed Anti-Inafune to not include a DLC X or Megaman, (which I never held my breath for in the first place. We all know Zero is the new fighting Capcom posterboy of the MM Universe). I can't speak for the Legends series, 'cause I never followed it, but that was fucked up too.

But in this case... if Infaune really DID request this back when things were GOOD? And more to the point, that Capcom STILL followed through with it?? That's not too terrible, now is it?

I'm still a Capcom fan. MvC3 was amazing. I'm not bothering with Ultimate, because I don't care about many of the new characters. And despite the additional characters, I can't wait until this thing comes out. Let's not forget the fact that Ryu&Ken can totally team up against Paul&Law and have a fucking shit storm of a fight. Those tag ins, specials and everything else seem so smooth and fun. And I have to admit, after seeing the BB video, I noticed that even HE has some pretty sweet moves....

It's not all bad man. I just... WHATEVER!!! He's in the game. We can't change it. We'll get over it. And he'll probably be very fun to play. Call me an Inconsistant Capcom Fan, but I just wanna play a new fighting game this Spring.

... The truth is, I am a fighting game enthusiast. I despise the BB Megaman design because it gives a bad impression on how bad Capcom has been over time even after he was confirmed in 2010 when Inafune thought that good things were going to happen, in which it didn't. It all seems like a bad joke now that Capcom did follow through with Inafune wishes (despite having his projects consistently shutting down or going through so many unnecessary changes). What it comes down to is that it is extremely accept this design even if he was originally planned. The fact that he doesn't really look that similar to his original BB Megaman design does not help either as he acts dumb and his voice is barely tolerable. I only spoke for myself when I ranted on Capcom, as well BB Megaman being a bad joke now that Capcom has done their little dirt.
I don't know what else to say, really.